Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Bad day

Yesterday was a bad day. Sets, flushes, two pairs, idiot straights on the river: I was losing to them all. Gonna go through yesterdays results on PokerTracker now and look for leaks before starting again today, and see where I could have saved some dollars.

In the meantime, here is a hand history I'd love some input on:

FullTiltPoker (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em (6 players...)
Seat 1: xxxx ($90)
Seat 2: Hero ($764.95)
Seat 3: xxxx ($68.50)
Seat 4: xxxx ($404)
Seat 5: Villain2($519.30)
Seat 6: Villain1 ($453.20)
Hero posts the small blind of $2
xxxx posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jh Jd]
xxxx folds
Villain2raises to $14
Villain1 calls $14
xxxx folds
Hero raises to $60
xxxx folds
Villain2folds
Villain1 calls $46
*** FLOP *** [7s Qh 9s]
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $108
Villain1 has 15 seconds left to act
Villain1 calls $108
*** TURN *** [7s Qh 9s] [3h]
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero checks
Villain1 has 15 seconds left to act
Villain1 bets $285.20, and is all in
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $285.20 returned to Villain1
Villain1 mucks
Villain1 wins the pot ($351)


I didn't like the fact that the Q was the non-spade, as if the villain was stupid enough to call the preflop reraise with KQs or AQs, then he would be looking at strong pair strong draw and happily get it allin. I just don't know what to make of the smooth call on the flop.

A set? Maybe, but given the pot size I think he would have pushed there and then given the flush draw. A flush draw with AsKs? Much more likely, given his call of the preflop re-raise and the call on the turn with overcards and nut flush draw. Something like 9hTh, where he picked up lots of extra outs on the turn and so happily pushed? I just can't say, and PokeraceHUD hadn't registered the FTP table, so didn't have any stats on the villain.

Any comments would be gratefully received. I really feel I should have pushed the turn myself, but can't be sure that in this spot I wouldn't just be gift-wrapping my stack!

8 comments:

seymour cards said...

i hate playing jacks out of position, especially with a re-raise as you'll likely only be called with hands that dominate you.

I think the flop bet is fair but the smooth call would worry me, and when that happens you know the only way this hand is going is with v2 going all in.

what was your plan at the start of the hand? were you willing to go all in with jacks?

I would say there are 2 ways to plan the hand, 1) if an overcard hits, 2) if you flop an overpair.

I think you played the hand in a way that was more suited to you having an overpair.

thoughts?

SubZero said...

I was playing it like an overpair, and by that logic should have pushed the turn... if there wasn't a smooth call to worry about.

It might have been a call with an OESD, or it may have been a set. I'm beginning to think I should have pushed, but the problem with that is I only get a call when I'm losing, and checking at this level elicits an allin as a bluff with the huge pot size.

Thanks for the comments...

AnguilA said...

I think a huge draw like JTs, or a made hand like AQs/KQs would reraise-push on the flop. I can't see how they would play the hand by just calling the flop.

For flat calls on the flop I would narrow the range to a set or top pair. A lot of people like to flat call with the set even if the board is threatening.

If I have to guess I'd say he had 99

AnguilA said...

Obv. meant made hand + draw (AQs/KQs)

Alan aka RecessRampage said...

I don't hate JJ ever. OOP or not, I love premium pairs. If you hate them, you just don't know how to play them.

Having said that, easy fold here. Villain has a set, most likely. Maybe AQ. But at this point, it's very unlikely he's drawing. If he is, he's got AKs. I would be shocked with any other holdings but that almost doesn't matter. IMO, this is a fairly routine hand and not worth dwelling over too much.

surflexus said...

I would certainly include KK in his possible range. He called your $60 reraise preflop. You fire out on the flop and he flat calls; to me this feels like he's a little wary that you may have aces. When you slow down on the turn, he decides he is ahead and gets his money in.

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