Thursday, April 10, 2008

Hunting big game

Just looking for a bit of advice on situations like the one detailed below...

Loose agressive 6-handed $3/6 NLHE table.
UTG+1 has $3000
Button has $500
You are in the Big Blind, with $1600 and TT

UTG folds. UTG+1 raises to $21.
Cutoff folds. Button raises to $85.
Small Blind folds.

You are now in what could be a raising war between the original raiser and the button. What should I do here?

Obviously there is a lot of value in going for the UTG+1 stack, but that is offset by the risk that he may easily 3-bet if you call, or if you 3-bet either he or the Button may push.

I folded in this spot (and of course the flop gave me top set). Is folding TT in this spot too weak for this level? Should I be 3-betting as I will be out of position if I call? Any advice welcome...

8 comments:

Alan aka RecessRampage said...

Calling wouldn't be bad I don't think, knowing that the big stack will also be priced in to call. Of course, at that point, you are set mining. If big stack reraises or shoves, you obv fold.

Reraising is not bad either. At this point, your hand will look extremely strong as there was a raise and a reraise already. However, button reraise might not mean anything and the big stack might fold JJ-QQ seeing the action you are giving by 4 betting. Of course, then if the shorty shoves, you are priced in to call...

Fuel55 said...

I'd call to set mine only. Folding is ok too if you really feel a shove coming or you feel you have an edge on these guys and would prefer not to gamble. I am not a fan of 4-betting here.

AnguilA said...

I've seen this before...

If you call and see the flop, it will never bring a ten.

If you fold and see the flop, it will always bring a ten.

If you reraise, first raiser will fold and the "short stack" will stack you with AA.

Standard.

Binner said...

Great fold mate. You cant really call here unless you are prepared to ship the rest of the 1.6k into the middle in a race at VERY best. You described this as a very loose game...so a donk call here is v likely to be pushed on leaving you no option but to fold. GL for this month

Eric a.k.a. Bone Daddy said...

anguila, that is a classic.

feels like a call, and risk the 85 as you are deep stacked, and utg has to respect your stack in this hand and will likely call or fold, if he pushes, you are done and have not lost too much of your stack. But agree, if you called, the flop would of come ace, king jack.

SubZero said...

Cheers for the advice guys, think I worry too much that the raising war will continue, and in future should call in this spot. Think paying $85 for a chance at $1600 is too good to pass up....

SubZero said...

Cheers for the advice guys, think I worry too much that the raising war will continue, and in future should call in this spot. Think paying $85 for a chance at $1600 is too good to pass up....

Doublemeup said...

I play full-ring at much lower limits so bear that in mind ;) I would flat call this for set value if I was sure that UTG+1 was going to do the same. If I felt UTG+1 was going to repop it, I would likely fold and wait for a better spot.

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Cheers.